{"id":9,"date":"2004-06-07T15:07:00","date_gmt":"2004-06-07T22:07:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/?p=9"},"modified":"2004-06-07T15:07:00","modified_gmt":"2004-06-07T22:07:00","slug":"how-much-horror-do-you-need","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/?p=9","title":{"rendered":"How much horror do you need?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I thought I&#8217;d bring a question to the AH blog here and find out what people might think.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier I started watching<i> Red Dragon<\/i>, the 2002 remake based on Thomas Harris&#8217; novel, the basis of Michael Mann&#8217;s <i>Manhunter<\/i>.&nbsp; Ran out of time this morning.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll start it over and watch it later.&nbsp; (Yeah, I&#8217;m weird.&nbsp; Either I wake up to a horror flick or CNN.&nbsp; Is there a difference?)<\/p>\n<p>While wading through one of the slower moments in the flick, I was comparing differences between <i>Manhunter<\/i>, the original novel, and the film I was zoning out of.&nbsp; Then I remembered an argument I got into with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wordfire.com\/\">Kevin J. Anderson<\/a> at a convention about 10 years ago over the Michael Mann flick.&nbsp; He thought the movie had steered too far from the book and should&#8217;ve kept more from the killer&#8217;s POV, including backstory and how it tied into his graphic MO.&nbsp; I didn&#8217;t think any of it was necessary.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;How much horror do you need?&#8221; I said.&nbsp; I was only half-serious, facetious but still curious what he thought was really necessary to make the story work.&nbsp; He shrugged it off, glowered for a few seconds, clearly annoyed.&nbsp; We moved on to things , it turned out, we both agreed on.&nbsp; It ended amiably.&nbsp; A year later, he even signed a book or two for me and Jamie.<\/p>\n<p>Cut back to June 2004.&nbsp; My mind&#8217;s drifting away from <i>Red Dragon<\/i>, making comparisons like I said, flitting around that disagreement KJA and I had.&nbsp; I&#8217;d gone back and forth on the use of gore, disillusioned with splatterpunk writing and lame-brained horror flicks until I finally got around to renting <i>Hellraiser<\/i>.&nbsp;&nbsp; Between that and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.neilgaiman.com\/index.asp\">Neil Gaiman&#8217;s work<\/a>, I started making a serious study of dark fantasy. ( I&#8217;d been dealing with almost a year of constant nightmares, so it gave me a chance to deal with all these dark themes and images in my waking hours.&nbsp; Kept me sane, got a mini-education.&nbsp; Doesn&#8217;t suck.)<\/p>\n<p>But I came away with a better understanding of gore and violence as storytelling devices.&nbsp; Until then, I&#8217;d seen only the awkward mishandlings of it.&nbsp; Most slasher flicks lack the skill of Hitchcock, Barker, or Dario Argento.&nbsp; I knew about public protests against media violence, but only heard smatterings of things like tragedy as drama, catharsis, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deutsches-filminstitut.de\/collate\/collate_sp\/se\/se_05_01.html\">Grand Guignol<\/a>.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s gotten wondering what people might say.&nbsp; Horror isn&#8217;t everyone&#8217;s cup of tea in the first place.&nbsp; Graphic violence is the drop of arsenic that only so many have the stomach for.&nbsp; Is it possible to do a tastefully done gory scene?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I thought I&#8217;d bring a question to the AH blog here and find out what people might think. Earlier I started watching Red Dragon, the 2002 remake based on Thomas Harris&#8217; novel, the basis of Michael Mann&#8217;s Manhunter.&nbsp; Ran out of time this morning.&nbsp; I&#8217;ll start it over and watch it later.&nbsp; (Yeah, I&#8217;m weird.&nbsp; [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.afterhell.com\/news\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}